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    Hello. I just saw the "game review" option at profile in game and i've decided to write it here because i think it's good opportunity to discuss the game as it is now, share opinions and maybe give some ideas for changes. Here is my review(sorry for the wall of text lol xD) :

    Since i came back to play this game, i tried and i am still trying to convince my friends to give a try to this game(new players) or try to bring back some old friends from this game to play together again. But i always hear the same thing from them : the game is boring because it's repetitive. I asked my friends why they don't wanna try this game and they said it seems like a brainless game for most of the time. You just click click on a robbery then you take stamina and repeat the process again for a couple of hours per day for more than a month. And i think they are right(sort of). It's 2018, slowly but surely the browser games are dying. Everybody has a good smartphone where they can play fancy games when they are away from home or play non-browser games when they are at home. Not everybody is going to enjoy a game where you have to robb like a mindless chicken for most of the time or spend hours at dealer to hunt drugs. Even if you make an mobile app for this game, it will still be boring and hard to play from a phone. Can you imagine somebody into a rave, playing from a smartphone, escaping a hunter that plays from the computer?

    So here are my ideas to change things a bit. I know it will still have the same boring mechanism but i think it's a good start to make the game less boring.

    1) Reduce the number of tickets for normal accounts and add more tickets for VIP accounts.

    Maybe a lot of you think i'm crazy because i would want to spend even more money. Well, i can assure you i am not the type to buy a lot of credits but i think it's a necessary thing. Why? Firstly, it will reduce the rabbit milking. The majority of accounts that are made only for a milking purpose(rabbits) are not VIP accounts. So less tickets means less stats to milk, less cash to influence the stock and drug markets, less money donated to gangs and so on. Secondly, i think there are a bit too many tickets right now that cause that boring process of repetitive brainless clicking that i've talked about in the start of the thread. Something like 1 ticket / 10 minutes for normal users and 25-30 instead of 15 at day change for VIP users should be good.

    Just look at how the stock market is right now. Because there are a lot of rabbits made with VPNs, players that come to play only to help friends or TW users, the stock is done before day 20 into a round that takes 180. Less tickets would mean less money to buy them so early and give some time to other players that don't have tons of rabbits behind them.

    2) Add more robbs and grow the stamina required for all robbs.

    In my opinion, it's a bit crazy how most of the people have lvl 10-11 before day 40 and the only thing keeping them away from reaching Godfather is the fact that FK comes in day 60. Almost everyone has power to robb Motorcycle Gang around day 30(around day 10 with milking) and it's crazy since it should be a hard robbery. I think the game as it is now, it's not challenging enough for people to make lvls. If you grow the stamina for robbs it would be great since: people will robb faster so less time to get bored, there will be less money and less stats so advancing in robbs and lvls will not be so easy. Also adding more robberies should be fun, maybe a random robb that gives you stocks.

    Also, a requierment like invest X amount for lvls could be a good idea to make them harder to pass early in the game.

    3) Add new daily missions to the Alley.

    I think funny and challenging missions like : win 10 blackjack games in a row, get 1kkk profit from casino games, kill 5 players from 5 different countries into a day, have the biggest robb money wise, sell drugs at dealer for an amount of x money and the list can continue for so long. The rewards should not be very high, some tickets/credits and some money should be good.

    4) Autocomplete drugs in raves for VIP accounts.

    I think with the mobile app coming this will come in handly. Even more for the new players. Something like the whore button from the whorehouse added into drug raves to auto make it 100% only for VIP accounts.

    5) Raise the maximum lvl for buildings.

    Give to players something to invest money on. Something like 20 maximum lvl instead of 13, but balance the production so it will be lower early on.

    6) Random event for whores.

    So there are events for robbs, drugs, stocks, ships and so on but not even 1 for whores. Make an event where the production for whores gets bigger for the next 2 tc days or cheaper whores, or something like that.

    7) Make the bots accept faster virtual robbs.

    Not everyone can enter into a top gang to robb,especially new players that can be considered rabbits so many players robb in virtual, but sometimes(in the morning for example) there are not enough players to robb in virtual so waiting 1-2 minutes for bots to accept 1 single robb it's a pain the ass. Make it faster.

    8 ) Make stock to appear random in the market(same like drugs dealer).

    I don't think i have to explain this because i bet everybody knows how the stock is being abused by big teams or rabbits. Make it random so it won't be so easy to transfer it between accounts or to keep the price high for the main acount when selling.

    9) Remove the Oil requierment for Hitman lvl.

    I dont see the point making the hitman robb a RANDOM robbery to grow a lvl. If you want to make it harder for them to gain lvl, just raise the power(attack or robb) required for lvl up, don't put a random robb there because it sucks for them.

    10) Bring back old fight chat.

    You said that you don't want the old fight chat because it was easy to transfer stats. Well, i think it's easy to transfer anyway since the raves are not anonymus anymore so at least change the fight chat because this one is boring and the only way to fight 1v1 is to spam raves with limits which is boring.

    11) Change the items from the arms dealer.

    Just try to balance them so all will be viable and not only the invest one will be good. You can argue that Junkie can be usefull too, but only if you lucky enough to buy something needed later for a ship, otherwise it's a pretty high risk since the price can go down. And the others are pretty useless if you compare them to those written before.

    I think that's it for now. What i dislike about the game right now besides the boring robbing and drug hunting, is the fact that it's easy to boost accounts and make it easy for them. I don't think that's fair and should't be the way to play this game. Teams should help eachother by staying together in a gang and hunting ga or robbing together not by milking stats. By letting the game this way, not only you make it unfair for the majority of the player base, but you let people exploit it. Like making tons of accounts with VPN, TW, buying phone SIMs and so on. I mean, it's so easy to have 10+ accounts and not get banned. Is that fair? How can you expect to bring new players into this game when they literally stand no chance without a team. You can have the best tactic in the world, but if you don't get help or abuse the system you will not win anything.

    You changed the way stats are gained after some attacks from the same account and it makes it harder for teams that abuse the system to milk, but they still do it pretty easy since they have tons of accounts, but this change made it almost impossible for the honest players to put stats. For example if player X has 2 friends with 1 account for each and they want to help player X to gain stats early, it would be very hard to actullay make something from it because with 2 attacks and low stats after 2 attacks means there is a little benefit. And now think about player Y who has 10 friends with 10 accounts for each and wants to put stats. He will manage to milk them pretty well and gain an unfair advatange. That's why you always see the same players, same teams in top because they know how to exploit the game without being punished and they just rotate the main account every round so everybody will take a medal.

    I know it's hard to make this game single account based since it has such a big history of playing with rabbits and it's in people's DNA, but if you decided to make it against the rules to play with more than 1 account, just make sure nobody exploits it.

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    Dude, I agree with almost everything you said.
    BUT.. You are asking too much from the crew, the barely can't fix the nightclub bug while robbing in virtual gang. It's too much for them.

    Peace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xSquaD View Post
    Dude, I agree with almost everything you said.
    BUT.. You are asking too much from the crew, the barely can't fix the nightclub bug while robbing in virtual gang. It's too much for them.

    Peace!
    You do realize that's a framework problem and not the game as yoBogdan has texted all about, right?
    The crew members are not developers, at least not for the game-code, so it's not their job to fix the game new system. But towards balancing the game and making it fair to play it is.

    Mostly of the time you see 10 or 20 players, that have like 2kk+ stats, not even at day 50 yet. The many account problem is going on pretty hard on this round.
    Broker made the stock market broken, by creating many accounts and buying the same stock and transferring. I can see this happening with "friends", but it's obvious that the same player is abusing it. We can't ban them, since it's not against the rules at the rules don't approach SM in any way, at least from abusing it like this.
    Stats happened to work the exact same way, many accounts and new way to assault each one. It's retard like this.

    I hope someone reply here with some answers, since this is the 100th round, it's kinda special and later on we'll have a new design. The game keeps losing players, even with the professions and major changes this round... It's sad, but we all know it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baker View Post
    You do realize that's a framework problem and not the game as yoBogdan has texted all about, right?
    The crew members are not developers, at least not for the game-code, so it's not their job to fix the game new system. But towards balancing the game and making it fair to play it is.

    Mostly of the time you see 10 or 20 players, that have like 2kk+ stats, not even at day 50 yet. The many account problem is going on pretty hard on this round.
    Broker made the stock market broken, by creating many accounts and buying the same stock and transferring. I can see this happening with "friends", but it's obvious that the same player is abusing it. We can't ban them, since it's not against the rules at the rules don't approach SM in any way, at least from abusing it like this.
    Stats happened to work the exact same way, many accounts and new way to assault each one. It's retard like this.

    I hope someone reply here with some answers, since this is the 100th round, it's kinda special and later on we'll have a new design. The game keeps losing players, even with the professions and major changes this round... It's sad, but we all know it's true.
    Really??? Pfff, give me a break.

    Top players brake the rules all the f***** time, everybody knows it. If a random player (A.K.A not a crew bestie) stays at the top for a while, will definitely get banned for no plausible reason. Even Stevie Wonder can see that.


    If you want to be a crew member:

    Requirements
    Age 18 or older
    Good experience and well-understanding of The Crims
    Good English knowledge (needed)
    Mature attitude and seriosity is a must!
    Dedication and interest for the future of The Crims
    Clean history in this game (wasn't banned before for any specific reason)
    Good knowledge of the rules


    One of the requirements is that you cannot have a ban history. Many crew I know have already been banned at least once and runs the game. How can you trust them?

    This game is dead.
    Last edited by xSquaD; 03-28-2018 at 07:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xSquaD View Post
    Really??? Pfff, give me a break.

    Top players brake the rules all the f***** time, everybody knows it. If a random player (A.K.A not a crew bestie) stays at the top for a while, will definitely get banned for no plausible reason. Even Stevie Wonder can see that.


    If you want to be a crew member:

    Requirements
    Age 18 or older
    Good experience and well-understanding of The Crims
    Good English knowledge (needed)
    Mature attitude and seriosity is a must!
    Dedication and interest for the future of The Crims
    Clean history in this game (wasn't banned before for any specific reason)
    Good knowledge of the rules


    One of the requirements is that you cannot have a ban history. Many crew I know have already been banned at least once and runs the game. How can you trust them?

    This game is dead.
    Please point to me where I said that top players don't break the rules. (?)

    I know that non-known players gets banned while on top, simply cuz they're new to the game and somehow managed to get stronger or rich within small time, I did got banned once cuz of this. Really, I was hunting day 1-2 of some round and managed to get good hits with the very beginning, while changing to day 2 or 3 I received the msg "read the rules, etc... if you don't follow the rules you'll get banned".
    I kept playing and soon at day 4 I got banned. I don't even remember why, but that made me quit for about 1 or 2 years.

    You can always try to get dis-banned, but **** that. If you get banned for 12h and a good event comes, done, you're done.
    Maybe you lost a chance to make 10bi or more.

    Stop shit posting. And if you think the game is dead, why are you still replying in the forum really?

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    I still enjoy the game, just like classic video-games titles. But I don't have any hope this will ever be great again. The developers try to add new features every round to make it attractive to new and old players, but what they do not see is that the crew team needs a refresh.
    Have you ever thought that the problem is not the game, but the people that manage it? Will this topic help them? Not a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xSquaD View Post
    I still enjoy the game, just like classic video-games titles. But I don't have any hope this will ever be great again. The developers try to add new features every round to make it attractive to new and old players, but what they do not see is that the crew team needs a refresh.
    Have you ever thought that the problem is not the game, but the people that manage it? Will this topic help them? Not a bit.
    Seriously I see ur view.
    There's no communication with the player base, at least not within the round going.

    This is such a bad decision, the forum has 10-20 views/user, it's really sad how the game is going right now.
    I hope someone answer here, cuz it's hella obvious the many accounts problem. If the top teams can do, why don't just allow everyone to do it? Maybe the game will be more "alive" with 3k online/day. Maybe we can get many many kills and not 1k-2k kills/round.

    Can anyone answer? Developer? Crew? ADMIN?
    hello?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xSquaD View Post
    I still enjoy the game, just like classic video-games titles. But I don't have any hope this will ever be great again. The developers try to add new features every round to make it attractive to new and old players, but what they do not see is that the crew team needs a refresh.
    Have you ever thought that the problem is not the game, but the people that manage it? Will this topic help them? Not a bit.
    I dont think the crew is the problem at the moment. The rules are a big problem because it's easy to exploit them since the game allows to. Everybody can have access to multiple IPs these days. Let's say player X has access to 3 different IPs(girlfriend's phone,brother's phone,work's phone, free wifi etc) besides the main account. If he asks his mates to make accounts and give trust to his rabbits he can play on 6 accounts, 7 with main. Is he breaking the rules? Theoretically yes, because he is playing on more than 1 account. But practically speaking, he is not breaking the rules since the IPs are different and nobody from the crew can prove(and ban him) that he is playing on those accounts and not some other players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoBogdan View Post
    I dont think the crew is the problem at the moment. The rules are a big problem because it's easy to exploit them since the game allows to. Everybody can have access to multiple IPs these days. Let's say player X has access to 3 different IPs(girlfriend's phone,brother's phone,work's phone, free wifi etc) besides the main account. If he asks his mates to make accounts and give trust to his rabbits he can play on 6 accounts, 7 with main. Is he breaking the rules? Theoretically yes, because he is playing on more than 1 account. But practically speaking, he is not breaking the rules since the IPs are different and nobody from the crew can prove(and ban him) that he is playing on those accounts and not some other players.
    It doesn't even need to be that hard, just install TeamView and play within access to other computers. There are so many ways to break the rules.

    Yet, no replies from crew or admins, this is very sad.

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    Instead of getting constructive feedback , players only know how to point out what is wrong mind you most of them have no idea what they are talking about and yes I am talking about some in this thread.

    So this is what I will do , I will give a big thanks to BOGDAN and invite him to talk to me on skype or via email to help us with feedback and after I will close this THREAD.

    PS : Saying that the game is how it is because of the crew is, and this is me being nice , the stupidest thing I've heard in 11 years of TC. This crew is taking time of their own time to answer all types of questions and trying to help all types of people FOR FREE. Next time If you people can't understand the reason a THREAD is created please do not post on it since you do not understand what the point of said THREAD IS.

    CREATE A NEW ONE WHERE YOU CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT CREW .
    Last edited by Bebynho20; 03-29-2018 at 02:54 PM.

 

 

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